.....as it stands

limpopo was a bloodbath and TM's downfall was hatched from the highest echelons of the party the NEC or some of the people on the NEC included, my view is that whether they were party to it or not makes no difference all that matters now is that he was betrayed and they failed TM as such.

don't get me wrong I got all the confidence in the party and its structures but I'm taking issue with the complete disrespect for TM and disregard for party policy and the way people have behaved throughout the conference. Can it be true that TM has done such a bad job at it or people are viewing it as such? What are we then as average citizens to take out of this? JQ has serious issues with TM but I think his issue is more personal than that, I think if he was given the opportunity he would go brutus on the poor guy.

the elephant in the room has just move and as a result TM was crushed to death, it's JZ on the elephant clearly and that elephant is the Labour movement and the reds. I always say don't worry about the guy who is making all the noise worry about the 1 in the corner with his mouth shut ,cos we don't know whether he spits poison or water.

are we then to say that TM and all that he blieved, his disciples and what he preached could have been out of tune? How does the ANC repair the damage and move 4ward with force? Whether we would like to admit it or not there are 2 centres of power. They can smile and exchange pleasantries before the NEC meetings but deep but the divisions are there.

they ANC are going to re-investigate the arms deal and not make their findings private. There are signs that they don't have confidence in the national government and TM, they got some1 to oversee the activities of government. Do they really think we are that dumb that we won't see how they are trying to undermine TM, from here on 1 thing needs to happen TM must call an early election.